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Temple to be built now? For the anti-christ? or, For The Lord Jesus Christ?

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Friday, 12 October 2007, 5:58 p.m. What’s inside the Ark of the Covenant? Are we ready to Build the Temple for the Return of Christ?

In the prophet Ezekiel's writings, the most was written about the rebuilding of the Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Eight chapters are written about rebuilding the Temple, and the re-development of the land of Israel. Why should there be so much written about the structure of this building? Let us see if we can find out some of the answers.

We will see connecting phrases and precepts to what we have previously discussed in discovering the four "living creatures". We will see connections to Zechariah's prophecies, a relationship to the anointed Branches, and even evidence of the return of Jesus Christ to the re-built Temple.

At the beginning of Ezekiel description of this vision, he describes how the Lord again took him in a vision to a high mountain. Ezekiel was in Babylon, in captivity with Judah, when he was taken in a vision to the land of Israel, and saw how the Temple would be built and wrote down the measurements for its construction.

Ezekiel 40:2,3

2. The visions of God brought me into the land of Israel and set me upon a very high mountain by which was a frame of a city on the south.

3. And he brought me thither, and behold, there was a man whose appearance was of brass with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.

Jerusalem is the city in the southern portion of the land of Israel.

The Temple Ezekiel saw was different than Solomon's Temple. Nothing is said about the altar of incense, nothing is said about the lamp-stands, and nothing is said about the Ark of the Covenant. We will see if there may be a reason for this:

Altar of Incense: Incense we saw as the prayers of the saints as the smoke and the incense ascended up before God. Revelation 8: 3,4.

The Lamp-stand: held up the seven lamps that gave all their light to the two olive branches through the seven pipes. Zechariah 4:2

The Ark of the Covenant: held the tokens of promise:

1. The Ten Commandments.

2. The Manna.

3. Aaron's Rod that budded.

The point we should consider is that upon the return of Christ to this earth:

Is there a need for the Ark of the Covenant? Everything held in the Ark of the Covenant are tokens of God's promises. When Christ returns all of his promises will have been kept and fulfilled. The tokens of promise could be compared to a promissory note that has been paid. After it is paid the note is destroyed because it is no longer in effect.

1. The Ten Commandments were fulfilled on the cross, as Christ paid the price of our sins with His blood.

2. The Manna, the bread of life will be fulfilled when the word of the Lord goes forth from Jerusalem to the rest of the world on a daily basis, as the water covers the sea.

3. Aaron's Rod will be fulfilled by the Lord bringing forth His Branch in power and glory. The Rod will again have budded into new life as the Branch brings glory to the Lord.

Now let us take a close look at Ezekiel 43: 1-7.

1. Afterwards he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east.

2. And, behold, the glory of the Lord of Israel came from the way of the east; and his voice was like the noise of many waters and the earth shined with his glory.

Is this not a picture of Jesus Christ entering the Temple that will soon be built upon the Temple Mount in Jerusalem?

Is this the time of His 2nd Coming?

Is this when He came in the clouds with all His saints, and we were raised up to meet Him and were changed in the twinkling of an eye?

Based upon Revelation 11:15 Could this be the beginning of the 1000 year Millenial Kingdom?

15. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Could this be after the 7th trumpet judgment in the middle of the 7 year tribulation period?

We will turn to Daniel to see if we can get some answers.

Daniel 7:13,14.

13. I saw in the night visions, and behold, one like the son of man came with the clouds of heaven and came to the ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Now we have another mystery. Who is the ancient of days who hands over the Kingdom to Jesus? We will search to see who is referred to as the ancient of days.

Isaiah 51: 9

9. Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in the ancient of days, in the generations of old, art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon.

(The Lord brought the people out of Egypt, by Moses, who he empowered as his stretched out arm. Exodus 6:6.) The above verse referes to Moses as the stretched out arm of the Lord. This verse is saying, Wake up and put on faith, and work, as you did in the ancient of days, in the generation of Rahab, when she was by faith and works delivered from the destruction of Jericho. The wounding of the dragon refers to the wounding of satan through the plagues and Exodus out of Egypt. Hebrews 11:31, Deuteronomy 4:34.

When Daniel saw Christ coming into his Kingdom in Glory, he met the "ancient of days". Could Moses, as one of the two witnesses, fulfill this prophecy?

Ezekiel 43:3-7.

3. And it was according to the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city, and the visions were like the visions that I saw by the river Che'bar. And I fell upon my face.

4. And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.

5. So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court, and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.

6. And I heard him (The Lord) speaking unto me out of the house and the man stood by me.

7. And he said unto me, son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, their whoredom, nor by caresses of the Kings in high places.

In these verses of Isaiah, Ezekiel and Daniel, they show us a picture of the kingdom being given to the Lord, by Moses, the ancient of days. We see the glory of the Lord entering into the Temple in Jerusalem. We see the Lord in the Temple speaking to Ezekiel telling him that this is His Throne, and the place of the soles of His feet. Where the Lord will dwell in the midst of His people, Israel, forever.

This is the Temple to be built before the return of the Lord to earth.

This is not to be defiled by the anti-Christ at this time.

Yes, The scriptures are true and the Temple will be defiled by the anti-christ, but at the end of the 1,000 year Millenial Reign or our Lord Jesus Christ.

This will be the beginning of the 2nd part of Revelation the fulfillment of the Bowl Judgments.

The Milleinial Kingdom is between the two halves of the Tribulation Period of three and one half years. The second three and one half years is known as the Great Tribulation Period.

Gary Larrabee
vinesbranch.com

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I am having fun with some real characters who read RMN,

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, 4:20 a.m.

In Response To: Temple to be built now? For the anti-christ? or, For The Lord Jesus Christ? (GLarrabee) When I tried to return mail to OldFart @ ___ . Com this was what I got in return:
Mailer deamon: does not like recipient.

From oldfart @ .com
There was a hint that this was really form some one named April with an email address similar to this. oldfart @ .com
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Re: Temple to be built now? For the anti-chris....

Are "we" going to build the third temple? Many of the people who post here and run this site live in mobile homes. They're doing good to clean out the cat box in time for the garbage haulers. You 're going to build the Third Temple, ha! Go back to Oprah.

RMN readers I do not mean any dis-respect, but the writer must be a character with this email address aid I decided to have a little fun: I am ver serious about the answer I gave her, but I did address he as "OLD FART".

Old fart,
Do you believe God is in control?
Do you believe in Miracles?
Do you believe the Bible is true and is the word of God?

I don't even have a mobile home. I live in a low income subsidized apartment and I am an old Fart also age 67.

But the Bible says the wealth of the unrighteous is stored up for the righteous. I have found that if I hear from God and if I am obedient to do what ever he says, it is God's responsibility to get the job done and it does not matter about money or anything else.

I have been tested a little.

Testimony of Gary Larrabee and the events that put me on a Journey
http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=39116

In my opinion it does not matter about either your wealth or your health. If you turn your will to the Lords will and don't care whether you are rich or poor or dead or alive, you just give your life to what ever the Lord may want to do with it.

When you do this, You will probably be tested to see if you really mean it. At first things will probably look like they are going from bad to worse for a while. But if you really commit your self, I mean a commitment that is for ever that will never change regardless of anything else, so forever that you only want God's perfect will in every situation in your life. Don't beg, or ask for anything except his perfect will. The Lord's prayer is the perfect prayer in every situation.

When you do that, you no longer have any problems, they are all given to God. Tell God, and say, God you have a problem, If you want me to do what ever it may be you have for me to do.

But you can do it through me if you want.

So if you are almost dead and can't even move even a finger, Just tell God, I am here and this is what you have to work with. You can either let me die or you can heal me and send me any where in the world, or use me for anything, if it is better or worse it does not make any difference.

Then don't change your mind until either you are dead or God raises you up.

Try this and see if you die or you end up flying in your own private jet airplane before you die. I would bet on the latter, that God will raise you up to do a glorious work, with a wonderful future.

Well I have some good news you are never really going to die. When you accept the Lord you go from life to life. If you don’t accept the Lord I am not sure. If you are serious
I can assure you of one thing you were sent her to do a job for the Lord that no one else can do. Trust the Lord to fulfill what he created you for and fulfill your own destiny.

I personally don't think my time has come yet and I have not even started to do the great things God is going to do through me. Yes, some people think I am crazy, and some times all hell comes against me. But the victory is always with the Lord.

You have a very exciting life ahead of you. I dare you to put God to the test.

God Bless you, you old fart,
Gary Larrabee (maybe I am an even an older old Fart)

PS. April, God Bless you, I was born in April. Is your mobile home in a fancy park looking over the beach and ocean view? Southern California or Florida?

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World will see Nation among all Nations Come Forth as a Nation Born in One Day

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Saturday, 13 October 2007, 3:35 p.m. The World will see The Nation among all Nations come forth as if a nation born in one day.

The Lord is building for himself a people. We are the house of God and a nation not of this world but a nation unto God.

In describing this nation of believers I will refer to: Isaiah 66:

Isaiah 66:1

1. Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: Where is the house that ye build unto me? And where is the place of my rest?

This is the Lord asking this question. Where is the house that ye build unto me? And where is the place of my rest?

This is the Temple to be built upon the Temple mount in Jerusalem, Israel in our generation. There are actually two types of temples of God spoken of in scripture. We know the Kingdom of God dwells within us. We as individuals are temples holding the presence of God in the Spiritual form of the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ is within the believers heart.

The house that ye build unto me, is both a physical and a spiritual temple. The spiritual temple within speaks, gives gifts and is within each believer and is the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. In your heart is where the spirit of the Lord resides with your spirit . We are each one, spiritual building stones of a spiritual temple of the people of God. Jesus should be at the head and is always the chief corner stone. The physical temple is the physical temple and is to be built according to plans described by Ezekiel.

The millenial temple in Jerusalem where the Lord will be the head of ruler-ship of this earth.

It appears that the spiritual temple will be completed first by the body of Christ totally submitting to Jesus the head of the Body of Christ and coming into unity under the head.

The house of Israel with all the 13 tribes is going to be re-established in the land of Israel. The church, or body of Christ is made up of the people of God, this is the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, consisting of all believers related by direct ancestral links, or by the Holy Spirit’s grafting in. This body comes into unity, by being so dedicated to the Lord they give up all their denominational doctrines and will submit thee will’s to allow the lord to work through them.

Then the Lord will bring them together as a close nit family allowing God to have his perfect will in every individual’s life. The Lord will cause them to reunite as a family reunion.

All believers with the Ten Tribes unite with the Jews, the people in Israel today. The Jews we see today are the people from the nation of Judah.

Israel today primarily consists only of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and part of the tribe of Levi.

Judgment will come upon the world through the 7 Trumpet Judgments, that brings the people of Israel together as one nation with the end of the war of Gog and Magog attacking Israel. The reason for this is to free the people of God from Mystery Babylon.

The 7th Trumpet judgment is last Trump judgment and is the return of Christ to this earth. Jesus Christ will return to enter into his millenial reign.

This will be the rest representing the seventh day of the Lord, or the seventh one thousand year period of humanity. Roughly there was 2,000 years between creation and the flood, 2000 years between the flood and the birth of Christ and 2,000 years from Christ until today. So we have completed the 6 days consisting of 1,000 years each or 1,000 year days in the prophetic time table.

Isaiah 66:2

2. For all these things hath mine hand made and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but this man will I look, even him that is poor and of contrite spirit, and trembeleth at my word.

The Lord is looking for that man corporately as the church in unity all of one mind and accord in Christ Jesus. This will literally be the corporate body of Christ, one could even say this is the Corporate Christ.

Matthew 5:3.

3. Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.

The Lord is looking for the church to become that perfect man, poor in spirit. To do this it seems it will take judgment within the body to the point we recognize the need for power, life, wisdom, judgment, and righteousness beyond what man kind is able. The awakening will happen and we all will honor and submit to letting Jesus Christ be the head of his Body. Then we will be brought to the point we look for some one to full the office and the position of the true prophets, speaking for the Lord in every church.

We saw this in the article Blue prints to build Successful Government or Business even a ______________!
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=110897

Ephesians 4:11-13

11. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evagelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12. For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the Body of Christ.
13. Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ;

The Lord is looking for that perfect man corporately as the church in unity fully submitted to the leading of the Lord. Through His plumb-line standard of his "seven prophets" will become the "seven eyes upon one stone".

We are to do away with all church rituals and doctrines. Read below what the Lord thinks of these rituals and doctrines.

Isaiah 66:3.

3. He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificesth a lamb, as if he cut off a dogs neck, as if he offered swines blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Here in the 3rd verse of Isaiah 66, the Lord compares all religious rituals and symbolisms of worship we do in the power of the flesh. We surely have chosen our own ways of worship, that the Lord calls abominations. We have gotten our minds on materialistic things rather than seeking the true spiritual gifts the Lord has for each of us.

Many in the church rely on the church and not he person of Jesus Christ as their savior. This is a delusion that will be judged.

Isaiah 66:4.

4. I will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; When I spake they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that which I delight not.

Here the Lord is speaking of the churches that control the people and hinder them from hearing the voice of the Lord. They tell them they need to be in obedience to church leaders and need the leaders to tell them the truths of the Bible that the believers are not able to understand.

They do this with their man made rules saying, God no longer speaks through prophets nor does the Holy Spirit do any speaking in other tongues.

They worship the letter of the law and refuse to believe that the Lord speaks through prophecy. Since they do not believe God speaks, he does not speak to them and they don't hear when God calls. They worship in a way that seems right unto them because that is the tradition of their church, but it is displeasing to the Lord.

The Lord will choose the delusion and bring their fears upon them. The Kingdom through judgment, is going to come together.

Believers have been taught not to worry about the Tribulation they will be taken out in the rapture. The people are now depending upon the rapture rather than submitting to the spirit calling the church into unity by submission to letting the head take his proper position as head of the body.

Not letting the Lord be the head of His church, allows man’s idea’s of what the Lord wants and leads to many delusion’s of man’s carnal non spiritual mind.

Isahiah 66:5.

5. Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my names sake, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy and they shall be ashamed.

This should be a warning to every pastor who has asked someone to leave his congregation because of speaking in tongues of delivering a prophecy of the Lord.

Today there are very few church's that freely let the Spirit of The Lord speak. The spiritually sensitive believer who has a word from the Lord, is seldom welcome. They preach sermons on the dangers of privately hearing the voice of the Lord, leading the people to believe it is a sin, or that they are listening to the devil.

Isaiah 66:6.

6. A voice from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice from the Lord that rendereth recompense to his enemies.

This verse is looking ahead to the time the Lord will be on earth in the city of Jerusalem, and in the temple where the voice of the Lord will be honored.

This may be prior to the Lord's actual return and may be the Lord speaking through a prophet, maybe Moses or Elijah to free his people from their enemies Mystery Babylon in the trumpet judgments.

Isaiah 66:7.

7. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a manchild.

This is like bringing forth a nation (BRANCH) with in the nation (Body of Christ) of all nations (the world). This is bringing forth the man-child is the fulfillment of all of these, the 144,000, the BRANCH, the Over-comers, The appearance of the Stone cut out of the Mountain without hands.

The woman fleeing into the wilderness are the believers who have not fully submitted their own wills to being totally lead by the head Jesus Christ.

Below we see another description of the woman who flee's into the wilderness, Israel, the uncommitted part of the church, also described in Revelation 12, as the woman (bride) giving birth to the man-child, the Branch.

Isaiah 66:8.

8. Who hath heard such a thing? Who hath seen such a thing? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

This glorious day seems to be the day of the 6th trumpet judgment. Gog’s armies will be destroyed, probably within the first one hour as they turn their weapons upon themselves.

This act of God will bring the people of God in all nations into unity as a single nation, no longer ruled by evil rulers and the laws of evil men. They will praise and worship the Lord for the great deliverance he has given them. I believe this may be the day where every knee will bow, believers and unbelievers alike. All believers and unbelievers will bow their knee to the Lord in one day. This is the finished work of the Branch. The man-child is referred to as Zion' s children, the reuniting of Judah and Israel takes place at this time.

Isaiah 66:9,10.

9. Shall I bring to birth, and not cause to bring forth? Saith the Lord: Shall I cause to bring forth and shut the womb? saith the Lord.
10. Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: Rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her.

This is the joy of being delivered from what seemed like certain death from all the armies of Gog who were ready to destroy Israel. Truly this will be a reason to rejoice, praising and honoring the Lord.

The following verse describes the taking of the wealth from the nations of the world in Biblical terminology.

Sucking and draining the milk is speaking of the wealth taken out of the nations as they depart.

Isaiah 66:11.

11. That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

The invasion of Israel is like the events of the Crossing of the Red sea. The nations that that refused to release God’s people see that the people have escaped with all the gold Silver and wealth of the nations and they determine to get it back by invading Israel. This is the war described in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

The nations lead by Gog come to take a spoil of Israel and again they end up becoming even more wealth than the riches that were taken out of the invading nations at the end of the 5th seal. All the people and tribes of Israel are re-gathered as one nation all prasieng the Lord and submitting to his will upon the mountains of Isreal, but today called the mountains of Lebanon.

After the 6th trumpet, there will no longer be any unbelievers, but some will still be the hard headed who will not believe the Lord as there personal savior. After the 6th trumpet is sounded everyone will know there is a God. Many people of all nations will submit and will accept the Lord as savior.

Isaiah 66:12.

12. For thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the gentiles like a flowing stream; Then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dangled upon her knees.

The prophet Haggai, seems to be speaking of the same events.

Haggai 2:6,7.

6. For thus saith the Lord of hosts; yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land.
7. And I will shake all nations and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with Glory, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the desire and the glory refer to physical wealth the Lord is going to give his people from the nations of the world. The next verse speaks of this glory and specifically states what is meant by the glory.

Haggai 2:
5. According to the word that I covenanted with you when ye came out of Egypt, so my Spirit remaineth among you: fear ye not.
6. For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;
7. and I will shake all nations, and the Desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.
8. The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.
9. The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.

The Glory of the latter house is referring to the future beyond the Temple that Zerrubabel and Joshua were building. This verse is looking forward to this generation and the time of building the Temple described by Ezekiel.

Look for the temple to be begin after the war of Ezekiel 38 and 39 and the task of building temple and developing the land of Israel and the Temple the way the Lord wants it may take up to the year 2050. I have based this a lot on prophecies of the Psalms that seem to extend to 2050.

I have been trying to explain in RMN writings the things that are very hard to explain as if I were writing about different important points and putting them in a chapters in a book. As you read from each chapter look to see how each may be a connecting do to the next. The story hopefully will explain why and how the Kingdom of God is coming forth in this generation. The hardest thing is explaining how simple it is to become a part of this great movement of God.

The one who quits fighting the reasoning of his own mind and gives his will to be lead by the spirit of the Lord will be in perfect step to becoming an over-comer and member of the INTERNATIONAL BRANCH OF THE LION OF JUDAH, where there is no leader except the Lord Jesus Christ.

The article I read on RMN years ago called “Leaderless Resistance” seemed to me to be the way the army of God works, except maybe it should be called something similar to this:

“Leaderless Resistance, Submitted to Spiritual Command and Order under Command of the King of Kings”

Gary Larrabee
Vinesbranch.com

After you hear from God - Don't be Deceived by words of an OLD PROPHET

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, 2:29 p.m. The story recorded in 1 Kings 13 is a most tragic encounter of two men. A man of God and an old prophet. These two men both had been used by God, but their end was most deplorable.

This old prophet in Bethel, a town of Israel, was a man who in the past had been used by God, but in his later life was no longer a person the Lord could use. When God wished to warn Jeroboam because of his sin in Bethel, He did not send the old prophet who lived near king Jeroboam, right in Bethel, to speak for Him. The Lord instead sent a man of God from the nation of Judah to speak for Him.

This indicates that the old prophet was no longer useful to the Lord. The term "old" attached to the word prophet reflected neither his spiritual maturity nor his rich spiritual experiences. Rather, it revealed the fact of his being spiritually aged, and he no longer was fit for the Lord's service.

In speaking to Jeroboam, the Lord could only use a man of God who was in communion with God. Communion is the basis of light from God, and the phrase "man of God" denotes such a one has communion with God. The old prophet had a spiritual history. For he at one time was a prophet, but now he had lost his communion with the Lord. He became an old prophet that the Lord could no longer use.

The old prophet lived in Bethel where Jeroboam molded a calf as an idol for the people of Israel to worship and offer sacrifice. He ordained people as priests who were not Levites, and set the months and days for the burning of incense on the altar. The reason Jeroboam did this was because he was afraid the people would return to Jerusalem to offer sacrifices in the Holy Temple as prescribed by God.

A prophet can speak for God because he knows the mind of God. The old prophet lived in Bethel, and saw all that Jeroboam had done. All was done before the eyes of this old prophet. Yet the old prophet failed to recognize their sinful character. So the Lord had to send the man of God instead.

When the Lord called upon the man of God to go to Bethel, he commanded the man of God.

1 Kings 13;17

17. Thou shalt eat no bread nor drink water there, nor turn again to go by the way that thou camest.

The man of God remembered this command and he rejected the first invitation of the old prophet, as well as the earlier invitation of the king. But the man of God was deceived by the words of the old prophet when he lied to him by saying: I also am a prophet as thou art; and an angel spake unto me by the word of Jehovah, saying, bring him with thee into thy house that he may eat and drink water.

The man of God figured that if the old prophet was a prophet he certainly was more experienced than he. Therefore, he should obey him, so he returned with the old prophet and ate and drank at his house.

The man of God violated the Lord's command due to the words of the old prophet. As a result the man of God was slain by a lion after he left the old prophet's house.

At the beginning, the man of God was perfectly clear on the command of God. But he became confused after hearing the claim that the old man was also a prophet of God.

From this we can derive a most important teaching. AFTER A SERVANT OF GOD HAS RECEIVED A CLEAR COMMAND FROM GOD, HE MUST NOT LISTEN TO ANY MAN, NOT EVEN AN OLD PROPHET, if these words are different than what God has commanded.

Gary Larrabee
vinesbranch.com

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BETTER STILL....

Posted By: RagnarokJack
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, 6:00 p.m.

In Response To: After you hear from God - Don't be Deceived by words of an OLD PROPHET (GLarrabee) ....Listen to the words of God's son who forcefully warned about the pseudoprophetes(lying prophets)who willfully distort God's prophecies to decieve. Over the past two thousand years those lying prophets have both been old and young men and women.

You can read about this warning in the biography of Mathew chapter seven.

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Lets see what the Bible speaks about modern day Prophesy

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, 7:17 p.m.

In Response To: After you hear from God - Don't be Deceived by words of an OLD PROPHET (GLarrabee) Lets see what the Bible speaks about modern day Prophesy.

Yes there has been false prophets for 2,000 years and they speak from pulpets around the world in many denominational churches.

According to the following scriptures or any other Bible scriptures you may find you decide whether Prophecy has been done away with. For me based upon Scripture I say that anyone who says Prophecy is not for today and has been done away with is a False Teacher and is grieving the Holy Spirit, because the Spirit wants to speak.

In this day we need hear the Word of the Prophet to be in alignment with God's writen word and God's perfect will individually to do the Lord's will and purpose to bring forth the Kingdom of God.

I am not saying such a teacher is an intentional False Teacher. I am saying he is believing some traditional church teaching that is based upon the tradition of man and not the Bible.

Every Seminary, every preacher, every evangelist and every Bible teacher should be tested according to the world of God.

Every one who speaks of Bible Truth must be tested with the scripture if it is true or not. That includes me.

I am not saying I know everything and don't say I am always right, but I try to know what I believe and why I believe according to Bible scripture, in the total theme of the Bible. No private verse is for any private interpretation it must be put in the context of the total Bible.

Test every word I write or speak with the truths of the Bible. If I am wrong bring me to task and show me where I am wrong. I will change, because I have no choice, if I am seeking only the Truth.

Now read what the New Testament speaks about Prophets, Prophecy and tongues.

Acts 2:17
'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.
Acts 2:18
And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.

1Co 13:9
For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
1Co 14:1
Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
1Co 14:39
Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues.
Re 10:11 - Show Context
And he said to me, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings."
Re 11:3
And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

Whay wasn't Haggai stoned for this false teaching. If a modern prophet were to say such a thing people would be calling for him to be stoned.

Haggai 2:21
21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.
23 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts.

Was Haggai a false Prophet?

He spoke these words to Zerubbabel and they did not happen in Zerubbabel’s life time.

No Haggai was not a false prophet. He was prophesying into the future, to the days that we are now living.

In the near future Zerubbabel, will be given the signet ring of authority among the nations of the world. I believe this will be to re-gather the wealth of the world to bring forth the Kingdom of God and for building the Temple to be occupied by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Gary Larrabee
vinesbranch.com


Jesus Christ, a Jew: What about the Jews?

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, 11:13 p.m. The Jews

Jew is a name given to the Southern kingdom of Judah after the tribes were separated in 931 BC.

At that time Rehoboam Solomon’s son had become King of all the tribe, however the northern tribes rebelled against their hard and dictatorial ruler.

The northern tribes separated and set up their own kingdom, establishing their name as Israel and their capital city as Samaria.

Rehoboam maintained the city of Jerusalem as his capital and since Jerusalem was within the boundaries of Benjamin, they joined the Tribe of Judah so Judah from this time became enlarged to include Benjamin and part but not all of the tribe of Levi.

After this separation there becomes a new word into the scriptures that does not previously appear, the word Jew. The word Jew is only used to refer in the Old Testament Scriptures to the southern tribe of Judah and is never used to describe the people of the northern tribes making up Israel. We see a case recorded in the Bible (King James Version of Bible, 2 Kings 16:5-7)where the people of Israel went to the King of Syria and ask for help fighting against the Jews.

The very first time the word JEW is used in scripture is when the 10 northern tribes spoke of the tribe of Judah as JEWS.

The Jews.

For nearly 4,000 years, amid all civilizations and countries, under all conditions of governments, there has existed a distinct people, with laws, habits and customs distinctly their own. The History of the House of Judah, the Jewish people is with out parallel in human history. They were oppressed, down trodden, carried captive to other lands and scattered among the nations. Attempts of total extermination have been made upon them but like the fabled phoenix, they have risen from the ashes of their dispersions and now appear again upon the pages of history.

They are remarkable in the first place for their antiquity. They, like no other nation, can trace their lineage by reliable history. They had literature before most nations had letters. A literature, the Torah, is more wisely diffused than the literature of any other people. The existence of the nation of Israel today is an undisputed testimony of the Bible. God himself has preserved the Jewish race. God also has great work for them to do.

The Jews were raised up to affirm and teach that there is but one God, and to be the writers, preservers and transmitters of the Holy Scriptures. The Jews took special care to preserve the Torah and keep it from being tampered with, and if it had not been for them, these words of scripture would have been lost long ago.

The Jewish Race was raised up so that God through them might give the world a Savior. Who was Jesus? A Jew. How carefully his ancestry has been preserved in the scriptures from Adam to Christ's birth in Bethlehem.

The Jewish Race was raised up that they might save the world from moral decay. Jesus said, "Salvation is to the Jews". He meant more than the fact that through them should come the Savior of the World. The salvation of the nations and the preservation of the human race on the earth depends on the preservation and the continuance of the Jews as a race.

Jesus Christ, a Jew, when he began to preach the gospel of the Kingdom, chose twelve Jews to be his disciples.

In the beginning the church was strictly Jewish, then, the Gentiles were grafted in to the church. In Romans 11:17, Paul does not say that the olive branches (The Gentiles) were grafted in to replace the natural branches (The Jews). Instead he states that the olive branches were grafted among the natural branches.

When God finally restores His last day church to even more glory, than that of the early church, the Jew will once again have the liberty to observe his feasts and ordinances, and the Gentiles will have the liberty to disregard the law of Moses.

Neither Jew nor Gentile should be cut off from the root (Jesus) and source of blessing that comes upon us all from the seed of Abraham. In these last days it is becoming evident to the Church that Christ will again manifest the wonderful word of the cross that made both Jews and Gentiles to be one growing body where both will have the liberty of worshiping and being a part of future temple worship in Jerusalem.

Gary Larrabee
vinesbranch.com

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From Rumor Mill News Reader - Jesus Christ, NOT a Jew:

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Monday, 15 October 2007, 3:59 a.m.

In Response To: Jesus Christ, a Jew: What about the Jews? (GLarrabee) From Rumor Mill News Reader

Re: Jesus Christ, NOT a Jew: What about the Dem....

Jesus was a Palestinian from Galilee, speaking his mothers tonque Aramaic as in contrast with neighboring Jews under the Roman puppet Herod.Pilate spies described Jesus as white skinned impressive being with golden hair, speaking to curly haired bearded Jews about LOVE and commandments stolen by jewish Pharisees from the Hammurabi
Codex 3.5 thousand years before them.
No imaginary Moses ever existed, nor brought them from Sinai mountain, it is a lie.
Letters from Pontius Pilate say clearly, Jesus was not a Jew,as you can read them in Vatican Library
Please,do not copy lies and crap any more about subject you know nothing about

My Answer
Gary Larrabee

What about writings of Johsephus and the other lost books of the Bible?
That agree with the scriptures?

Matthew 1:1-17
1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham: 2 Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers. 3 Judah begot Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez begot Hezron, and Hezron begot Ram. 4 Ram begot Amminadab, Amminadab begot Nahshon, and Nahshon begot Salmon. 5 Salmon begot Boaz by Rahab, Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot Jesse, 6 and Jesse begot David the king.David the king begot Solomon by her who had been the wife F1 of Uriah. 7 Solomon begot Rehoboam, Rehoboam begot Abijah, and Abijah begot Asa. F2 8 Asa begot Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat begot Joram, and Joram begot Uzziah. 9 Uzziah begot Jotham, Jotham begot Ahaz, and Ahaz begot Hezekiah. 10 Hezekiah begot Manasseh, Manasseh begot Amon, F3 and Amon begot Josiah. 11 Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon. 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel. 13 Zerubbabel begot Abiud, Abiud begot Eliakim, and Eliakim begot Azor. 14 Azor begot Zadok, Zadok begot Achim, and Achim begot Eliud. 15 Eliud begot Eleazar, Eleazar begot Matthan, and Matthan begot Jacob. 16 And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are fourteen generations, and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are fourteen generations.

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RMN readers pinning me to the wall! Several comments and my responses

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Monday, 15 October 2007, 5:24 p.m.

In Response To: Jesus Christ, a Jew: What about the Jews? (GLarrabee) All of these responses are on the same subject so similar comment are lumped into seral with several answers. This is a statment of my understanding and I and all the rest of us have the right to be wrong and to change our minds. I do not know all the facts from sources people are referring to, so I will try to find my answers with in the Bible or other Bible related ancient manuscrips I have read.

Concerning the ancestry of Jesus, It is believed that Matthew chapter one is the lineage of Joseph and the lineage of Mary is described in Luke 23: I am not sure this is absolutly correct. However a reader comments that Elizabeth Mary's cousin was of the Tribe of Levi and so Mary would also be of that Tribe also. When Judah separated from the other tribes in 931 BC the Tribe of Levi was scattered with the largest number boing with Judah because Jerusalem was the location of the Temple. Jerusalem was within the Tibe of Benjamin. So the Jewish people we call Jew's today are from the tribes of Benjamin, part of the Tribe of Levi and part of the Tribe of Benjamin. Jesus was born of the tribe of Judah, Mary was of the Tribe of Judah and Josephe was of the tribe of Judah.

So Jesus was born a Jew.

Re: From Rumor Mill News Reader - Jesus Christ....

The word "Jew" was not invented until the early
1700's AD. There was no "J" in the Roman based
alphabet until then. The first KJV used "Iudean",
where Jew is now used. When the "Iu" was replaced
in part by the "J", the name became "Judean".

"Jew" is an invented name in the attempt by the
converts of Talmudism/Phariseeism, the Mongol/Turk
tribe called the Khazars (Cossars) around 740 AD,
to deceptively assume the original Abramic covenant.

Re: From Rumor Mill News Reader - Jesus Christ....

The earliest time in scripture that the word Jew is used is recorded in 2 Kings 16:6. This describes a war between Judah and the other ten tribes called Israel. The ten northern tribes that make up Israel were about to be over-run by Judah. The King of Israel asked the King of Syria to defeat the "Jews". Here we see the King of Israel calling the people of Judah Jews.

2 Kings 16:5-7

5. Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Ramali'ah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not over come him.
6. At that time Rezin King of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there untop this day.
7. So Ahaz sent messengers to Tiig'lath-pile'ser king of Asyria, saying, I am thy servant and thy son; come up, and save me out of the hand of of the king of Syria, and out of the hand of the King of Israel which rise up against me.

So we see term Jew does not speak of the people of Israel but only to the people of Judah.

Josephus also wrote about the people of the northern tribes claiming to be Hebrews but not Jew.

Quote from Jewish Antiquities Book 2 Chapter 8.

Seeing that Alexander had so greatly honored the Jews, determined to profess themselves Jews; for such is the disposition of the Samaritans, as we have already elsewhere declared, that when the Jews are in adversity, they deny that they are of kin to them, and then they confess the truth; but when they perceive that some good fortune hath befallen them, they immediately pretend to have communion with them, saying that they belong to them, and derive their genealogy from the posterity of Joseph, Ephraim, and Manasseh. Accordingly, they made their address to the king with splendor, and showed great alacrity in meeting him at a little distance from Jerusalem. And when Alexander had commended them, the Shechemites approached to him, taking with them the troops that Sanballat had sent him, and they desired that he would come to their city, and do honor to their temple also; to whom he promised, that when he returned he would come to them. And when they petitioned that he would remit the tribute of the seventh year to them, because they did but sow thereon, he asked who they were that made such a petition; and when they said that they were Hebrews, but had the name of Sidonians, living at Shechem, he asked them again whether they were Jews; and when they said they were not Jews, "It was to the Jews," said he, "that I granted that privilege; however, when I return, and am thoroughly informed by you of this matter, I will do what I shall think proper." And in this manner he took leave of the Shechenlites; but ordered that the troops of Sanballat should follow him into Egypt, because there he designed to give them lands, which he did a little after in Thebais, when he ordered them to guard that country.

Hi GLarrabee,
I deduct that you do not believe in the immaculate conception ?
Christ's mother being a virgin means that Christ did NOT have a "human" father
.That makes him rather neutral as genealogy is concerned. He himself said that he DID
NOT BELONG TO THIS WORLD
ONCE AGAIN ! Which part of the scriptures is OK ?
As I have pledged to not argue about bigotery I live it to that .

But to enrich your knoledge read this http://arcticbeacon.com/books/
PEACE , Guy

Re: From Rumor Mill News Reader - Jesus Christ....

Dear GLarrabee,
Respectfully, Benjamin Freedman, facts are facts, settled the Jesus/Jew question and so many others concerning "the jewish question."
Peace,
sdm
Ct

Re: Jesus Christ, a Jew: What about the Jews?

so you are telling me that the dirty f_________ bastards in todays israel are my example to follow--have you read their dirty filthy vile bible--also i disagree with you--these fake ASHKA NAZI JEWS ARE FROM KAZARIA---THEY Have no f_________ GENEALOGY 'BUT' FROM KAZARIA KINGDOM--NOT ANY FURTHER BACK--I TOLD YOU ONCE PREVIOUSLY (OR MAYBE IT
WAS THE OTHER IDIOT AT AOREPORT--THAT THE WHITE NATIONS OF EUROPE-INCL
YOU--SURPRISE---ARE THE REAL JEWS--THE TRIBE OF DAN=DANS..MARK REUBEN IS THE FRENCH NATION—AND THE GERMAN AND KINDFRED PEOPLE ARE GODS MIGHTY BATTLEAXE---FYI THE POLISH ARE ALSO GERMANS BROTHER RACIAL KIN AS THEY WENT ACROSS THE MOUNTAIN INTO POLAND LAND AND BECAME FARMERS--WHILST TYHE GERMAN MAIN BODY STAYED IN DEUTCH(TRIBE AND BECAME THE
technical and military POWERHOUSE IT STILL IS TODAY----PS---THE ARAB PEOPLES ARE THE CLOSEST RACE TO THE CAUCAUSIAN ALSO---WHO BY THE WAY--CAME THROUGH THE CAUCAUSAUS MOUNTAINS(IN RUSSIA--LOOK IT UP) LONG AGO ON THEIR WAY TO EUROPE---NOW YOU KNOW THE REAL STORY--NOT 1 IN 10000 AMERIKAN SHEEPLE KNOW THEIR REAL GENEALOGY AND THE GLORY THEREIN...DUH...ISRAEL? F___ THEM BASTARD FILTH PIGS...AND ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS
THEM.

Kiev Mike,
The worst I have been treated is probably by a Jew. Also one of my best experiences of being treated was also by a Jew. The Jewish people
Are just like other people some good and some bad.

I think you and I agree on much more than we disagree on.

What do the 10 lost Tribes have to do with a war of Russia -Iran against Israel?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=110271

I will post more on this later.
Kiev Mike, keep an open mind. Thank you for reading and responding to my writings.

Gary Larrabee

Re: Jesus Christ, a Jew: What about the Jews?

the word" jew" and "jewish" first became words in the 18th century....this is documented fact.....also is the fact that this so called chosen race chose themselves because they had information meant to be shared with all mankind and they chose to conceal it and use it for thier own benefit....of course those pople are long dead so
those people, of which 98% of them arent even blood related to the hebrew, are just as misguided as the resr of us...so what exactly is the truth....we are ALL one and every one is a part of ALL, individual parts yes. ...the truth is still out there on the net if you care to do alittle more searching than you have..that truth is soon to
be GONE when our misguided leaders take over completely sooner than you think...peace be with you

Thank you, other than the Jew issue I think we are in agreement on a lot of things.
Hope fully I have given my response to you in the answers I gave others.

Gary Larrabee

Re: From Rumor Mill News Reader - Jesus Christ....

Hi GLarrabee,
I deduct that you do not believe in the immaculate conception ?
Christ's mother being a virgin means that Christ did NOT have a "human" father. That makes him rather neutral as genealogy is concerned. He himself said that he DID NOT BELONG TO THIS WORLD
ONCE AGAIN ! Which part of the scriptures is OK?
As I have pledged to not argue about bigotery I live it to that .
But to enrich your knoledge read this http://arcticbeacon.com/books/
PEACE , Guy

Guy,
Thank you for your e.mail. I do believe in the immaculate conception.

It is my belief,

When Jesus said he did not belong to this world he was speaking of one of the spiritual nature of the world political, social and financial systems, and the motivations of the world system. Jesus said we have three enemies. 1. Satan or Lucifer, 2. The Flesh, the natural instincts we are born with pride lusts and etc. 3. The word is also our enemy. When one accepts the Lord as his savior he is still in the world, the same as Jesus was in the world. Like Jesus our real home is with the Lord and we are not of this world. You might say we are to be foreign ambassador’s to this world from our home land the Lsnd where God is preparing a place for us. In Heaven.

I appreciate that you do not want to argue. Thank you, It is also desire to avoid arguing or confrontations and have people state there reasons for believing what they believe and I will also state my reasons for beliefs.

God Bless you,

Gary Larrabee