Our Past, Present and Future - A Stone is being cut out of a mountain

Does this the Story Tell the Story of our Many Past Lives, and future life?

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Wednesday, 10 October 2007, 12:54 a.m. I wrote this after reading from ancient manuscript “The third book of Hermas”.

The following is an illustration of what may be all of our roots and is a detailed illustration of what it seems Hermes was trying to illustrate how reincarnation fits into God’s plan of creation.

The Spirit of the Word of God stretches from eternity past without end to eternity future without end. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of all things seen and unseen as well as all things known and unknown.

God is in everything including all things good and all things bad. We know that God is omni-present so we can conclude that everything has been included in the omni-presence of God throughout the entire span of eternity.

A constant in all creation is that of cycles and recycles. The earth cycles around the sun every planet has a cycle. Time cycles into years and life itself cycles from birth to death and back to birth again. The spiritual man cycles from heaven to earth and back to heaven.

I'm leading up to trying to explain life's cycles with that which we see in the physical reality and also what we see in the truthfulness of the word of God contained in the Bible.

I will illustrate by telling a story with the help of some illustrations from an ancient manuscript, The third book of Hermas. I will change the story to make it illustrate what I am trying to explain.

There is a great willow tree that grows over the entire earth. It grows over every hill and in every valley. All of God's created people are over shadowed by this great willow tree.

The recycling of the spiritual man is a refining process to bring all things into perfection.

Matter can neither be destroyed nor created. It can only be changed. Nothing is destroyed or created either in the spiritual or the physical worlds. All flesh comes from the elements of the earth in birth and returns to earth in death and recycles back in life again. The same process happens in the spiritual reality.

The flesh becomes alive as the spirit enters the flesh and becomes dead when the spirit leaves the flesh. Material things recycle in the element of the earth from one type of matter to another. The recycling in from the spiritual to the physical and then back to the spiritual.

How can anyone say that we are only one or individual?

When ask if he was Elijah, John the Baptist said that he was not Elijah. When Jesus was ask about the prophecy of Elijah appearing, Jesus answered by saying John the Baptist was the spirit of Elijah. So it appears to me that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah, but john had no memory of any past life.

How can anyone say that we are not all a part of everyone and everything? There seems to be a pattern of creation in all matter. Within a single atom the pattern seems to be the genetic code of everything else mapping every form of matter. Today scientist speak of cell memory when organs are translated the recipient takes on some of the characteristics of the doner.

Everything physical through all time and space of eternity is never destroyed the adams and molecules are only formed into some other type of matter..

We see a coming together of the physical and the spiritual to form life and a separation. We see some thing similar in separation between truth and untruth and we see this in the separation of good and evil.

It appears that truth and good are related to eternal life and evil and untruth is connected to death. Life eternal is joining with the presence of the creator eternally and damnation is a separation of the creator eternally.

The power of the universe is the words and thoughts of all spiritual beings. This is the controlling factor from eternity past to eternity future. With good there is unity and with evil there is separation.

This is the power of creation and the power of judgment.

Now I will be on with my story about this great willow tree. The branches or limbs we will call rods, as the Bible refers to Aaron's rod that budded.

All the rods of this tree belong to individuals living under the tree. Every individual is a part of the tree and has a rod making up the tree. The shepherd of this tree is Jesus Christ in my illustration and the owner of the tree is God the Father.

As we look at the tree it is noble and lofty and the owner and the shepherd appear to begin trimming the tree. All the people gather around to receive their individual rods from the tree.

As the trimming takes place the workers of the owner the angels of God are taking the rods to the rightful owners. Each individual is to carry this rod through out his entire life on earth.

When all the trimming is completed each individual is required to return his rod to the owner of the tree to be inspected. Each rod will tell the story of the life of that individual.

The owner and the shepherd carefully examine each rod with care. As they inspect each rod they sort them into 12 separate assortments.

1. The 1st bunch rods are dry, rotten, and physical eaten.
2. The 2nd bunch of rods are dry, but not rotten nor physical eaten.
3, The 3rd bunch of rods are all dry rods.
4. The 4th bunch of rods are dry and in addition to being dry the wood is split.
5. The 5th bunch of rods are half dry and half green.
6. The 6th bunch of rods are 2/3 green and 1/3 dry.
7. The 7th bunch of rods were 2/3 dry and 1/3 green.
8. The 8th bunch of rods was not so dry but the wood was splitting.
9. The 9th bunch of rods was dry but had a few green branches,
10. The 10th bunch of rods were all green in the same position that had been taken from the tree.
11. The 11th bunch of rods were not only green but also full of branches.
12. The 12th bunch of rods were green full of branches and there was also fruit on the branches.

After the life inspection of each person’s rod they are given back to the people.

Then as the people watch as the owner orders crowns to be brought out to be given back to the people according to how their rod was judged. All these crowns are made of palm leaves that have been taken from the crown of a palm tree.

The tree owner calls all the people of the 12th group whose rods were green and full of branches with fruit in the branches to come forward and receive their crowns.

Then the owner shows them his walled city where they also see a large tower. He shows them that great city Jerusalem descending out of heaven. It had walls with 12 gates and 12 angels stood at the 12 gates. The city was pure gold, like pure glass. The walls of the city were made of all types of precious stones.

To receive eternal life one is placed within the city walls, but to be a part of the kingdom work and have power and authority one has to live in the tower.

The angel of the 12th gate placed the crowns upon the people and ushered them into the tower.

Then the owner ordered more crowns to be brought forth and called all the people who had rods taken rods from the 11th bunch that were all green and had green branches. The angel of the 11th gate crowned them with there crowns and ushered them into the tower.

Then the owner called all the people that had rods from the 10th bunch whose rods were all green just as they had received them from the trimming of the tree. All these people were given white garments and the angel of the 10th gate ushered them into the tower.

Then the owner had all the rest of the people enter the gate that was the number their rod had been taken from and took them all behind the wall into the city. Inside the city each person was required to put his rod on an altar.

Then the shepherd gave each person a green rod back to them and sent them out of the city again through the gate they had entered to plant the rod again to see how it should grow.

They again will return after a season and enter the same gate they were directed to before and present their rods for another inspection by the owner and the shepherd.

Some one standing near as an accuser said to the shepherd. Why are you doing this? The shepherd answered by saying this tree loves life and he wants his branches to be planted and this time he wants each one to be given a little moisture. So that many of them will be able to recover themselves.

The owner then told the accuser I will pour water upon them and if any of them can live, I will rejoice with them. Then he continued saying, if they don't live it will not be because I have neglected them by not giving them water.

This great tree which covers the plains and the mountains is the tree of life. The word of God and his devine plan of salvation that is to be published through out the whole world. This word will be preached to all the ends of the earth. All the people who have rods are those who have heard the Word of God and have believed this word.

The accuser ask the owner why the ones in the tower were not required to replant their rods. The owner responded by saying, Those who have not kept the word of God within their hearts are still under the owners care to see if they might change from being controlled by there own self wills. He said those who are abiding in the vine or the tree are working within the power.

Then the owner was asked, who are those in the tower, the ones you have crowned? He replied saying, All that have had to fight with the devil, and have overcome him are crowned. And also all who have suffered hard times that they might keep the word of God have been crowned.

To receive eternal life one is placed within the city walls, but to be a part of the kingdom work and have power and authority one has to live in the tower.

These are those whose rods were green and also grew branches from the 11th bunch, because they have endured trouble for the name of Jesus. They have not suffered death, but have been faithful to the word of the Lord.

Those who delivered their rods just as they had received them in bunch 10 are those who were modest and just, and have lived with a very pure heart and have been obedient to the word of the Lord.

After the season the people again return into the city through the same gate as before.

This time the owner ordered those of the first group to come forward. These were those who had been all dry but not rotten. Some of these people this time delivered dry and rotten branches, but others delivered all green rods, even bearing branches and were able to enter the tower.

As each group was brought forward there were many who were changed, some were set aside because their rods were in no better condition than they were before. Others from each group were put in a different bunch going to a higher door, and some were even able to enter the tower from each group.

The owner and the shepherd rejoiced at all of the people because they were all changed. They were all in their proper order and place.

Now the owner said to that one who had been asking the questions and said, I told you that this tree loves life. Can you now see all those who have repented and have received eternal life? You should know that the goodness and mercy of the Lord is great and he is to be held in honor, for he gave to them his spirit that were worthy of repentance.

Then the owner was asked, why did they not all repent? Then he replied, those whose minds the Lord for-saw would be pure, and he knew would serve him with all their hearts, to them he gave repentance. But those with deceit and wickedness he could see would not change, to them he denied any return unto repentance because they would again blaspheme his word with wicked sayings.

Then the shepherd was asked, what is the place these in different groups go to and what is their end? The shepherd answered, they did not keep their purpose, and the owner had compassion towards them and has given them renewed spirits.

Chapter 2

The inspiration of what I am writing comes from an ancient manuscript, "The Third Book of Hermas". I am taking the liberty to modify the story to conform to my personal impressions of what I believe the Lord has revealed to me.

It appears to me that the Pyramid of Giza is a Physical structure that the Lord had built from before the flood to be a sign of what he would be doing to build his body in the spiritual realm, in this generation.

The story I am going to tell is in the form of an illustration of personal understanding that I presently have. So it is my opinion and personal understanding of Biblical meanings and should not be treated as a doctrine of truth, but only as a parable.

In this story we will be talking about all the people of the world who have a heart for God. We will divide all these people into 12 different categories.

The 12 sons of Jacob, became the 12 tribes of Israel, the Lord appointed 12 apostles and there are 12 gates into the heavenly city of the New Jerusalem.

So we will begin by describing 12 mountains that will represent all the people upon the earth. Those who are truly seeking God whether they call themselves Christians, Moslems, Jew's, Gentiles, or whatever else doesn't matter they will all fit within the 12 types.

#1. The first mountain appears to be black and covered with soot. This mountain represents people who have believed in God, but have for some reason revolted from their faith and have turned against the things of God. They have set out to persecute all believers and destroy all who serve God. For this group have hardened their hearts and they are unwilling to repent and so in doing this they have condemned themselves to death.

#2. The second mountain looks smooth and as if nothing will grow, a mountain of waste land. The people of this mountain are very educated and very smooth speaking. They have become people pleasers and act politically correct. They are empty as believer’s, they lack faith, and are hypocritical. They cannot be trusted to speak the truth. These people however have not blasphemed God nor condemned or persecuted the servants of God. They have been successful and have become rich in the ways of the world. These people still have a chance to repent and turn to God.

#3. The third mountain was covered with thorns, thistles and brambles. These are the people who are involved in many affairs of the world, symbolized by the thorns and thistles. The brambles represent the very wealthy believers. These people are so busy that their many activities choke out the time, and they have no time for the things of God. These are the people who will enter the Kingdom of God through very hard trials.

#4. The fourth mountain is half dry with out any vegetation, but the other half is covered with some vegetation. Although most of this grass is dry, there is some green near the top, even though the roots are dry. These are people who seem to know all the right things to say, and they sound very spiritual. However their lives are very different. They talk the talk, but are not willing to walk the walk. These are the look warm believers.

#5. The fifth mountain is a very rugged looking mountain spotted with green bushes. These people are self conceited, bold, and think they have all the answers. They are very presumptuous and lack knowledge, but act proud and self confident. They are fools who hold themselves out as teachers full of wisdom. They constantly magnify themselves. Many of these will be cast away, but others will be broken, and will confess, submit and repent.

#6. The sixth mountain was a mountain full of deep dry canyons full of withering grass. These people are busy body’s who involves themselves with other peoples business and controversies because of being jealous. They are gossipers who magnify quarrels, and disputes. Many of these people are argumentive and stubborn. They tend to having an attitude that is quick to anger, and hold on to their grudges. These people must be broken to a point of death to self, to see the Lord of their salvation.

#7. The seventh mountain is made up of very delightful pastures with well groomed orchards of fruitful trees. The animals and the birds love to dwell upon this mountain. These are the people whose lives are upright, faithful, and they always try to do the right thing. They live simply and are open and transparent with everything they have. They may seem gullable to the world, but they live in security of innocence and righteousness. They will be rewarded by the security of having their children and family members turn to the Lord.

#8. The eighth mountain was abundant and full of springs with flowing water of streams, rivers, and lakes. These are the people who wash themselves in the water of the word of God. They are broken and walk in the flow of the Spirit of God and are sent as apostles and teachers. Their lives are lived in righteousness and in truth as a testimony to the one they serve.

#9. The ninth mountain is barren with no water and has dead tree's and dead vegetation. Dwelling on this mountain are serpents and beasts that are destructive to humanity. These are the stained clergy, preachers and pastors with many stains and impurities in dead churches. They are glory and money seekers who rant and rave to their congregations to give money. They take the money of the poor and the widows and then are covetous of what they have taken.

10. This tenth mountain is covered with very tall tree's. These tree's provide shade for all the animals of the forest and the field. These people are the givers who administer and give money cheerfully to the poor and to missions of all types. These people entertain ministries and are protected and honored by the Lord.

11. The eleventh mountain is full of beautiful orchards of all types of fruit bearing trees. These are the people who have made total commitments to serve the Lord regardless of the cost. They have taken up their cross's to follow the Lord and suffer persecution even to the point of giving their lives to death in doing whatever the Lord asks them to do.

12. The 12th mountain is a pure white majestic mountain that stands in the Glory of the sunshine. These are the people who put others ahead of themselves. They show total integrity and disregard whether a person is small or great, rich or poor. They always deal fairly and unselfishly.

In these 12 mountains are all the resources needed by the Lord to build the Kingdom of God here on earth. This may be viewed as a spiritual temple of God's people of all nations, nationalities, and religious beliefs. It can also be symbolized in the Pyramid of Giza. So we are going to set up mining operations in these mountains for the spiritual mining of God's people by the spirits of the Lord.

Chapter 3

The world systems may belong to the devil, but the earth and all that dwells in the earth belongs to the Lord. The Lord seems to have already chosen the site of this structure in the exact center of the earth at the crossing of the lines of the 30th longitude and the 30th latitude.

This is the exact center of all the area of the earth land and sea.

This is also the exact geographical center of the whole land mass of planet earth. This is the center of Egypt on the border between upper and lower Egypt and is where the longitudinal and latitudinal lines cross in the center of the Pyramid of Giza.

Isaiah 19:19

19. In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.

Now that we have found the location physically, we need to prepare the ground spiritually. We need to do this according to the plans, and specifications of the architect. The plans call for a very solid foundation that requires care and workmanship.

We must begin by building a foundation of solid rock. We dig deep into the earth to a depth equal to the height of the completed structure, so we go 481 feet below ground level.

To do this construction and to move the huge stones requires a joint venture between heaven and earth. We have 6 job superintendents or job foramen, 12 special angels also known to be 12 virgins, and a multitude of other men and angels. Then we have the Chief shepherd Jesus, and his Father God, of heaven and earth, as final inspectors.

We place the center of the first foundation stone exactly where the cross lines intersect making it the center of planet earth. This first foundation stone is the true foundation of all creation the true word of God.

Sitting on top this true word written in the foundation stone, are 12 other foundational stones. These are the 12 sons of Jacob who become the 12 nations of God. Then above these 12 stones we place other stones, all the stones of all the seed of Abraham, in addition to the 12 sons of Jacob.

All the seed of Abraham, Arabs, Jews, Gentiles and their descendents, both spiritually through the new birth, and physically through natural birth.

To build this foundation of solid rock, covering over 13 acres at ground level requires approx 2,300,000 earthly stones totaling 80 million tons of solid rock.

After the foundation is completed all the construction is stopped at ground level for a period of three days. During this three day period there is an outer wall constructed to be the perimeter of a great city surrounding this temple.

The 12 angels then brought forth a huge white rock from the area of a plain away from the mountains. The rock appeared to be very old and yet within this old rock was a very shining and glorious entry with a new gate, to enter. The gate was placed in the wall around the city.

Now that the gate was in place everything used in city to construct the pyramid temple was required to enter through the gate way, to get through the outer wall. To guard anyone from trying to go around the gate the angels brought four stout stones, and they were placed at each of the four corners of the gate.

After three days the construction was begun the angels brought stones from all the 12 mountains and placed them among the multitude of builders that were completing the structure of the outer wall, around the city. The stones that were delivered were of various colors and they were all placed within the construction site on the foundation stone. As the stones were placed on the foundation stone they all became very white, as though they were taken into a state of glory.

But there were some stones brought into the building not by the angels but by the multitude of men, and these stones did not change from their original color into the glorious white, but appeared the same as they appeared in the mountain where they came from.

When the six job foramen saw that there were some very disagreeable stones they demanded that they be removed and taken back to the mountains where they had been taken from.

Then the six job formen spoke to the multitude of workers and instructed them to never bring any more stones into the temple construction area, because each and every stone had to be taken through the gate by the angels. Otherwise they would not agree in color to the glorious white.

Because of this the six foremen ordered that all work had to be brought to an immediate halt. All that had been done in the pyramid temple now needed to be re-inspected one stone at a time, to see that all the stones had passed through the gate.

The shepherd examined the building with such care that he handled every stone and struck each one with a rod he had in his hand. When these stones were struck with the rod some turned black as soot, others became rough, some had cracks in them, others were crippled, some full of spots, and others dull, neither black nor white.

None of these various stones were able to pass the inspection, and the shepherd commanded that they be taken out of the pyramid and laid near the wall of the city.

The other stones that passed the inspection and were found proper were put in their proper place. Now the stones that had been taken out needed to be replaced and the shepherd would not allow the replacements to be taken from any of the 12 mountains. Instead the shepherd gave instructions that stones should be taken from a field near by.

When the angels started digging in the field they found many bright square stones, and among them were many more that were bright and round stones. All of the stones both round and square were take to the city and made to pass through the gate, before they were taken to the construction site. The bright square stones were then placed and fitted in where the others had been removed.

But the round stones were not put into the building because they were very hard, and time would not allow for them to be cut properly. So they were instead placed near the pyramid, so they may be later cut square and placed in the building, because of their glorious white color.

The Father of the shepherd watched as the shepherd looked over the round stones being placed around the pyramid, the ones that had been rejected. He called the shepherd and said unto him, clean these stones with all care and fit them in the pyramid, so they may agree with the rest. But those who will not agree with the rest, cast away from the building.

The shepherd reshaped the rejected stones by cutting off the greater part from them in making them square, in order to agree with the rest. In the process of the cutting away, these stones became smaller than the stones needed for the outer walls, so they were placed in the middle of the building, with the greater stones on the outside keeping the smaller ones in.

The shepherd and his father then went away for three days as these rejected stones were cleaned, reshaped, and refitted.

Chapter 4

During these three days all the stones placed on the outside of the pyramid must be cleansed. Because if the master of the house were to find some unclean stones around the pyramid, he would become exasperated and would see these stones would never be placed inside of his temple; the pyramid building under construction.

After three days the master of the house came to look at all the stones, to see which ones would be placed inside his temple.

First he considered all those who had been black. All of them were still found to be black, just as they were when they were pulled out of the pyramid. So he commanded that they should all be set aside by themselves.

Then he examined those who had been rough. He commanded many of them to be cut square and then they were taken by the angels to be put in the pyramid. The angels placed them in the middle of the building, but the others who had become black were placed with the other black stones.

Next he considered those that were full of cracks. They were cut and repaired and then placed in position to be ready to be put inside the temple of the Lord, the pyramid being built. But because they had so many cracks they were not suitable.

Then after this he examined those who had been crippled and had many cracks and some were even with large clefts. He placed those with the others that had been rejected.

But all the ones who had been cleaned and reformed he commanded to be put into the building. Therefore the angels took them and fitted them in the middle of the building because they were weak.

Next he inspected those that had spots, and a few of them were found to be to black and they were taken by the angels and placed with their fellows. The rest became entirely white and were fitted by the angels into the building as part of the outside wall because of their strength.

Then he came to the round stones and instructed that a great deal should be cut off from them, so that some of them could be placed in the pyramid. He chose a few of the largest and brightest and squared them. Then the angels took them up and placed them into the outside pyramid wall.

The rest that remained were carried back to the same field from where they had been taken. But they were not cast away because he said he still needed stones to complete his temple. He said, Maybe these stones can be refitted because they are so very white.

Then there were called 12 worldly, stately looking fallen angels dressed in black gowns and their hair sparkled and their faces glowed.

The shepherd commanded these black robed angels to take up the stones and carry them back to the mountains where they were taken from. The twelve black gowned angels took them with joy to their place in the mountains.

When there was no longer any stones lying outside the building he inspected the pyramid to see if there was anything else needed.

He went around the building that was to be his temple and he saw that it was beautiful, and he was in love with it. Its appearance looked as if it was a single large stone, a pyramid cut out of the rock.

He then ordered some lime and little shells. Then he filled up all the spaces where stones had been taken out and then put in again, leaving a small space. Every surface was made perfect and perfectly smooth.

Then he commanded all the outside yard around the pyramid to be cleaned.

Then the shepherd said, I have a little business to attend to, but I will soon return with the Glorius city.

Revelation Chapter 21

1: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2: And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3: And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4: And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5: And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6: And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7: He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9: And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10: And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11: Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12: And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14: And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15: And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16: And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17: And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18: And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19: And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20: The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21: And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22: And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23: And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25: And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26: And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27: And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Gary Larrabee
vinesbranch.com


The Stone breaks the Kingdoms of Iron, Brass, Clay, Silver and Gold

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Thursday, 11 October 2007, 1:13 a.m. Nebuchadnezzar

As we take a new look at Nebuchadnezzar's dream and Daniel's interpretation recorded in the 2nd chapter of Daniel verses 32 to 45 we are able to see other possibilities of how this may pertain to this generation.

Daniel 2: 32-38

32. This images's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and thighs of brass.
33. His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
34. Thou sawest till that stone was cut out without hands which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
35. Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and become like the chaff of the summer threshing floor; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
36. This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
37. Thou, O king, art a king of kings; for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
38. And where ever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all, thou art the head of gold.

We are going to take a close look at this prophecy looking not only at history but we will also look at the shape and size of the image itself in its time of fulfillment.

Nebuchadnezzar was king of the Babylonian empire. The Babylonian Empire existed between 625 BC and 539 BC. This was the Empire of Gold.

In 539 BC, Cyrus re-established this area into a larger kingdom, the Persian Empire.

Since this kingdom stayed geographically the same with the same people, lets look at it just a change of the political power of control to another people. So it is my opinion The Persian Empire was an extension, and a re-establishment, of the Babylonian empire. So this should still be considered a part of the Gold Kingdom.

The Median Empire started the same year as the Babylonian empire in 625 BC. The Median Empire bordered Babylon to the north and ended in 550 BC.

The Head: The image's head was of fine gold.

Let’s give this measurement of the head about 10 inches from the top of the head to the bottom of the Jaw, to make the points I want to make. 10” = about 300 years for my illustration. We will see the Gold kingdom actually lasted 293 years.

So the kingdom of Gold established by Nebuchadnezzar did not end with Babylon, but was kept intact under different government.

If this is reasonable thinking, that the kingdoms continued, and only the controlling governments changed, the Gold Kingdom would extend from 625 BC to 332 BC. This period would represent the head of the image. A total of 293 years.

Alexander the Great overthrew the Persian Empire in 332 BC. Most Bible commentaries and Bible teachers state that this was one of the great kingdoms of the world, and is the silver kingdom in this vision.

Can a Kingdom lasting only nine years be considered one of the Great World Kingdoms?

It started out to be a great kingdom but was broken up after only 9 years. In the United States we see a president lasting 2 terms or 8 years. The United States is a great Kingdom but the USA would not have been a great Kingdom, if it had lasted only 9 years.
How would the United States be rated as a Kingdom if it lasted only 9 years.
George Washington was a central, critical figure in the founding of the United States and is commonly considered the father of the U.S. He led America's Continental Army to victory over Britain in the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), and in 1789 was elected the first President of the United States of America. He served two four-year terms from 1789 to 1797, winning reelection in 1792.
I doubt that we have been taught the correct meaning of this scripture and this teaching is not the proper meaning due to the fact that this kingdom was a failure after only 9 years. Alexander was surely a great conqueror, but his kingdom ended in failure upon his death when the kingdom was split up among Alexander's Generals.

Between the head and the shoulders is the neck. This may be a period between 332 BC and 27 BC. A period of struggling to establish territories as a result of the Celtic or Gaelic migration after the empire of their captors was overthrown by Alexander the Great in 332 BC. It seems there is no real stable government during this time and so lets call this the neck area.

In the writing about the Ten Lost Tribe, I showed strong evidence on these Celtic people were actually the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

The two Shoulders, Chest and Two Arms: His breast and his arms were made of silver.

The Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire make up the chest of Silver.

The Roman Empire lasted 592 years so we will give the chest 20 inches in the scale of our image.

The Roman kingdom, the Silver Kingdom, began in 27 BC and ended in 565 AD. The shoulders separate into two arms. The Roman Empire had two parts, the Western Roman Empire, consisting of the European nations as we know them today, and the Eastern Roman Empire which was all the area around the Mediterranean Sea. This included such modern nations as Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Turkey.

Could this be the two arms of the vision? One arm representing the Western Roman Empire, and the other being the Eastern Roman Empire. The motivation of the Western Roman Empire was Christianity, and the motivation of the Eastern Roman Empire was Islam.

Two dominant empires make up the silver kingdom, between 600 AD and 1400 A D, one Islam, and the other Christian each lasting for 800 years. The two arms each being 30 inches long for our illustration.

The belly and thighs of this image were made of brass. This is the time when both Christianity and the followers of Mohamed, Moslems, became established through out the world.

So this is in agreement with other scriptures where we see that brass represent spirituality, in Ezekiel’s visions we saw that brass was the color representing those seeking God, even though they were doing so in their own strength as we saw in Ezekiel's vision of the living creatures. Notice that the brass kingdom will rule the earth.

I believe this is an unfulfilled prophecy, but will be fulfilled in a different way that we traditionally have been taught. The fulfillment of this prophecy appears to be a prophecy that will be fulfilled by the Seven Trumpet Judgments in this generation. When this war with Gog and Magog described in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is fulfilled I believe that spirituality will be the dominant force in the world.

The brass becomes the two thighs, another separation. Now we see one leg made of Christian faith and one leg made of the Moslem faith.

So this religious movement is the movement of two different faiths. The brass or faith movement of these two faiths continue on today, on the left leg and on the right leg. From the Thighs of Brass to legs of Iron we see that this leads into the Industrial development of the world in the industrial age.

As we see this metal change from Brass to Iron we see the turning from religion to materialism. It seems the faithful of these two legs eventually become a part of the stone cut out of the mountain without hands, who come out of Babylon or separate themselves from the kingdoms of Iron.

From the 2,000 until this day, we have seen the development of two separate areas in the world divided by faith. The legs began as brass into Iron and the feet become part iron and part of clay.

The Feet were made part of iron and part of clay. This sounds like a disease of the feet to me.

As far as the height of this image we have the head 20”, 293 years or call it 300. The chest shoulders to the waist 592 years or call it 600 years about 30 inches. I combined the Belly of Brass the Legs of Iron and the Feet of part Clay and part Iron, to cover from about 300 AD to the Kingdom of God, about 1,800 years. A total of about 60 inches. We have a total of about 2943 years or call it 3000 years and we have a statue a little over 12 feet tall.

This means absolutely nothing except an illustration that there is more to the meaning of this prophecy than first appears and we should seek a deeper understanding of all prophetic scripture. I am convinced the scriptures are written exactly as they were intended and our understanding is hidden until the time of fulfillment at the end of days and the time of entering into eternity.

The feet may represent stability, something to stand or support all the nations making up the legs. Could the U. N. and N.A.T.O. be organizations that try to hold up these kingdoms and let us walk in peace.

Everyone seems to agree that the ten toes represent the New World Order that is now being put together is an attempt of the anti-christ to take over.

In taking another look at this vision and world history I followed the following reasoning.

The image is solid with no separations. This seems to be a picture representing a continuous time period from the time of Nebuchadnezzar to the kingdom of God.

The shape in human form was a part of the proper discernment.

Notice that the stone cut out of the mountain does not fall on the toes but upon the feet. Verse 34

Daniel 2:44,45

44. And "in" (not after) the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45. For as much as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

A conclusion that may be reached is that the anti-christ system tries to get established, but because of the power of the church coming into unity as a Branch, satan's system is blocked in this generation.

Babylon falls, and we enter into the Millennial Kingdom.

This puts the fulfillment of the 666 system back, to be fulfilled after the 1000 years.

Revelation 11:15

15. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this earth are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.

And IN the days of these kings, Daniel 2:44. Since it doesn't say after, this could very well mean that the Body of Christ is able to bind the power of satan for 1000 years through binding prayers of the entire body of Christ, in unity, all of one mind and accord.

Moslems, Christians, Jews, and many others may all believe in the same God. The only difference may be different understanding of how one directs his faith.

Are others besides Christians saved? I believe they are, and will explain the reason why.

I believe that every Bible statement needs to stand on its own and when we put two different statements back to back we can come up with a different meaning. A meaning that is beyond either one was to be understood as they were originally stated. I will illustrate through these statements.

The Bible states Jesus is the only name under heaven in where by we may be saved.

This is a true statement that we can not call upon anyone other than Jesus for salvation. But Jesus has gone to heaven and has sent us his holy spirit. His spirit is seeking the hearts of men and women in order to save them.

Jesus said that no one come to the father except he is drawn by him.

The words are no longer the important thing. It is the language of ones heart.

This is in the form of the spirit and is not a matter of words, but a yearning or hearts desire. So a person can be drawn to ask the Lord to be saved by the Holy Spirit and may not know the name of Jesus.

Jesus, through his Holy Spirit is drawing men and women to God regardless of their understanding of Jesus. Let that stand alone.

After Jesus has been revealed in ones heart there is only one name whereby you can be saved. Let that stand alone.

Both of these statement’s are true and they need to stand alone. All things are possible with Christ.

Are Jews, Moselems and others being drawn to God by the spirit? I say yes, I believe they are.

I believe they are calling upon the same God to be saved by the name they know him by, after he draws them by his spirit.

In the end when we have come together, I believe we will find we have found the same God. This is still through the narrow gate of Jesus, for he is the Holy Spirit.

RMN readers comments about Moslems and my response.

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Thursday, 11 October 2007, 10:43 p.m.

In Response To: The Stone breaks the Kingdoms of Iron, Brass, Clay, Silver and Gold (GLarrabee) Hi Glenna,
I personally think that it is a small minority that really want to kill Christians. I have read the Koran twice, once renently and once ablut 30 years ago. I cannot see where they are taught to kill Christians. I saw a lot of similarities between the two faiths at least as Mohamid told his followers that the Bible was correct and actually ask on certain issues for his followers to ask either a Christian or a Jew.

I think when Christianity demonstrates to the real power of being what God wants us to be, many Moslems will be attracted to this standard. We need to let Jesus be the head of the body of Christ.

The Moslems do not teach that Jesus is the Son of God, but they do say Jesus is the word.

I have written a series of article's addressed to Moslems:
A Message to my Moslem Friends Part 1
http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=295742

Isaiah the 11th chapter speaks of the Branch and says the same thing as John 15, only in old testament terms. We will become the Branch described in Isaiah 11, when will submit our will's to let Christ be the head of his body. This will set a standard that will draw all people.

The Root of Jesse is Jesus and the Branch speaks of the followers of Jesus.
So this is sthe standard I am speaking of When we become the Brach of Isaiah 11:1-5, we become a standard for the world to see described below in Isaiah 11:10

10 ¶ And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

The Right Start in understanding you are the BRANCH planted by God
http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=356158

EZEKIEL'S VISION Message REVEALED For This Age
http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=2255

Thank you Glenna for reading and writing your comments by e-mail.
God Bless you,
Gary Laarrabee


Comment from RMN reader on the study of scripture and my response.

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Thursday, 11 October 2007, 10:37 p.m.

In Response To: The Stone breaks the Kingdoms of Iron, Brass, Clay, Silver and Gold (GLarrabee) Re: The Stone breaks the Kingdoms of Iron, Bra....

One More Thing Here under standing the Book Of John Try puting your self in the book and listin what he is saying One thing is when he is talking !! When John Is talking and when He is Taking to the people that make a diffiernce fromwhen he is taking to his choseing ones Time Times And A Half is ending
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When I try to answer by e-mail they say your e-mail is not accessable.

You are a deep thinker and study in depth and you speak with knowledge and wisdom.

This scripture tells a lot about how to study scripture.

Isaiah 28:
9 ¶ Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.

Below we have speaking in tongues and falling in the spirit, events that began in the new testament, described in the old testament. This tells me that we are also to study modern day prophecy precept upon precept line upon line and line upon line. Such as the interpretation of tongues. But we must check everything heard in the new with what is written in the scriptures of the past.

All prophecy must line up in a straight line from eternity past to eternity future. If it des not line up we have to search for a deeper understanding and then if it does not line up we must put it aside.

This is the part describing tongues.
11 ¶ For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

This is how we are to study modern day prophecy:
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

This describes being slayin in the Spirit (they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken)

This seems to speak of a non believer being in a meeting when prayed over slayn in the spirit, then with a broken heart is snared when he accepts the free gift of salvation and then is taken into the kingdom. He then becomes a resident of heaven, but residing still in this world on earth.

God Bless you,

Gary Larrabee

Events of the Future - Language of Restoration revealed in Language of Creation

Posted By: GLarrabee
Date: Thursday, 11 October 2007, 11:30 p.m. Events of the Past – Events of the Future - Language of Restoration revealed in Language of Creation

In some ways it looks like we are going backwards into the Garden of Eden, not from being sinless and then going into a world with a sin nature but just the opposite. Adam and Eve lived nearly 1,000 years. Now it appears that this generation is nearing the time when we will live a 1,000 years. Could it be that God is going to use all of this modern technology to fulfill his word. Many people believe that this is the generation that will not pass away until the Kingdom of God comes. People think of this generation of living 70 or 80 years. Maybe this prophecy by Jesus was given to a generation that might live 1,000 years through the millennial Kingdom.

Recently I read a Japanese scientist stated that a person born today, in 2007 may be able to live for 1,000 years because of the medical discoveries about to take place

We will look to see if we might see some hints in scripture to see how this might be.

Language of Restoration for today revealed in the language of Creation

To find out what may happen in the near future for the people of this generation we may look back and see how the reverse aging process took place with in the lives of Abraham and Sarah as they were regenerated to bear a child when Abraham was 101 years old and Sarah was 91 years old.

We will review the highlights of Abraham’s life in order to put this in perspective and show the time lines of certain events.

Abram was born in about 2150 BC in Ur the land of the Chaldeans. While living in Ur he married Sari his wife who was barren and unable to bear children. Ur today is the modern land of Iraq. When God called Abram to leave Ur Abram was 75 years old and he took with him his nephew, Lot, his brother’s son. God told Abram when Abram was 75 year old to go to the Land of Canaan which in this modern day is called the Land of Israel.

Read Genesis Genesis 12: 1-20

Abram’s wife at age 75 was very beautiful and Abram was afraid that he would be killed because someone might kill him to have his wife. Abram decided that he would not claim Sari as his wife, but would say that Sari was his sister.

Abram journeyed on, going on still toward the south. Since there was a great famine in the land Abram, Sari and Lot traveled on to the land of Egypt. Genesis 12:10

Abrams wife was very beautiful and Abram was afraid that he would be killed because someone might kill him to have his wife. Abram decided that he would not claim Sari as his wife, but would say that Sari was his sister.

Sure enough when the Prince’s of Pharaoh, King of Egypt saw Sari they commanded that Sari go with them and they took her to the house of Pharaoh King of Egypt. Pharaoh was delighted with Sari and responded by paying Abram sheep, oxen, ass’s, men servants, maid servants, and camels. All this was given to Abram his future brother in law, in preparation for Pharaoh to take Sari as his wife.

To get Pharaoh’s attention God caused great plagues to come upon the area of Pharaoh’s house because of Pharaoh being with Sari. Pharaoh soon figured this out and called Abram, blaming him for all that had happened.

Pharaoh said, what have you done to me? Why did you not tell me she was your wife? Why did you say she was your sister, so I might have her as my wife? Genesis 12: 14-20

Take Sari your wife and go your way.

Pharaoh commanded his men to send Abram away with his wife and with every thing he had been given to him and from then on Abram was a very rich man. Abram became very rich in cattle, silver and gold.

Read Genesis 13:

Abram and Lot were separated when lot chose all the well watered land of the plain of Jordan. Abram lived in the Land of Canaan and Lot dwelt in the cities of the plan with his residence on the outs-skirts of Sodom. Genesis 13: 5-12

Following this: Lot was captured while Sodom and Gomorrah were at war with all the nations joined together at the Salt Sea which is also called Vale of Siddim. Abram was able to rescue Lot from this captivity.

Read Genesis 14: 12-24

God promises Abraham the territory Israel is to occupy.

Abram had been obedient to what the Lord previously spoke to him and the Lord spoke to Abram again and said, lift up your eyes and look as far as you can see northward, as far as you can see southward, as far as you can see eastward and as far as you can see westward. Genesis 13:14-18

God promised Abram all the land he could see in every direction would be his and belong to his family ancestors forever. And he promised that Abram would have so many children and grandchildren for many generations. There would be so many that people born of his seed would be like the dust of the earth, so many now one would be able to count.

Abram tried to help God out. Read Genesis 15

But the problem in Abram’s mind was that his wife Sari was unable to have children.

This was a great promise from God, but Abram could not see past the obstacle.

Abram grew impatient in waiting and made some attempts to help God fulfill his world that just complicated things and added to the problem.

The first time Abram had an idea to help God. Abram said to God, I have no children. Do you mean that this will be done through the children of Eliezer the steward of my house?

The Lord responded saying, This will not be your heir, but this inheritance shall be of your own flesh and blood and they shall be numbered like the stars of heaven, so may that they cannot be numbered.

The second attempt Abram made to help God fulfill his word was when Sari gave her Hand Maid Hagor to Abram to bear children. The result was the birth of Ishmael who became the father of the Arab nations of the world today. Ishmael was born about 2020 B. C.

Read Genesis 16:

When Abram’s was ninety nine years of age The Lord appeared to Abram and made a covenant with him that he would be the (father of many nations) and at that time God changed Abrams name to Abraham.

God made the promise to Abraham called the Abrahamic Covenant, that Abrahams see would posess the land of Israel.

Abrams name is changed to Abraham (father of many nations) and Sari’s name is changed to Sarah (mother of many nations, when Abraham was ninety nine years old.

Gen 18: 11: Now Abraham and Sarah were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.

When Abraham heard this he fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? Shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear a child?

Read the details in Genesis 17

God also made a promise concerning Ishmael. He was also to be blessed with 12 sons, and promised to make a great nation of Ishmael. But the covenant was made that that Sarah was to bear a son, ans was to name him Issac about the same time in the next year.

When Abraham heard this he fell on his face and laughed. Shall a child be born from me? I am 100 years old and Sarah is 90 years old. Let this be done through Ishmael.

Then God said, Sarah, thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed, and thou shalt call his name Issac, and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant and with his seed after him.

The AGING process was REVERSED.

The Lord reverses the aging process when he said: I will certainly return unto thee a time of life. The Lord in modern language said, I will return you to a younger age. The Lord was telling Abraham he was going to reverse the aging process. And he would also reverse the aging process with Sarah so she could bear a child.

Sarah heard the Lord say this from behind the tent door where she was, that was behind the Lord.

At this time Abraham and Sarah were Old and well stricken in age. Both of them were to old to have a child between them.

So when Sarah heard this, she laughed within herself, thinking I am waxed old. Shall I ever enjoy having sex with Abraham again? And Abraham is old also.

The Lord then said to Abraham, Why did Sarah laugh? Saying to herself, Shall I bear a child when I am old? Is anything to hard for the Lord?

Sarah hearing this denied she had laughed, saying, I laughed not, for she was afraid.

The Lord responded, saying, Not so. You did laugh.

After this The Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham the things I am going to do?

Can you see all the events that happened to Abraham and Sarah from the time in Genesis chapter 12 where Abram told the Pharaoh of Egypt that Sarah was his sister to this time when Abraham and Sarah had this encounter with the three men, one was the Lord himself with two angels.

The time from the time the Lord said Sarah would have a son and he was to be named Issac to the birth of Issac was one year. At the time this was spoken both Abraham and Sarah had physical bodies that were worn with there age.

At this time both Abraham and Sarah experienced radical physical changes in there bodies and we will see the evidence of this just ahead. The Lord had caused the aging process not only to stop but he reversed it.

Abraham started thinking like a young man with a beautiful wife.

Even Abrahams thinking changed to the way he thought as a young person as he was faced with the same situation as a young man with a beautiful wife when he was given a renewed life for himself and his wife in order to bear a child, he again faced the situation where a king wanted to have Sarah and Abraham feared for his life and again said Sarah was his sister.

Sarah had a renewed beautiful body as a young lady in the prime of life, healthy, able to bear a child at 91 years of age.

When Sari was 75 the encounter was with the Prince’s of Pharaoh, King of Egypt. The second encounter when she was 91 was with King of Gerar, king Abimeleck.

Within this short time period Sarah went from being old and well stricken in age, when she was 90 to a beautiful young looking woman to be desired by the King of Gerar, king Abimeleck at 91.

Read the details of this second time of calling his wife his sister

Read the details of this encounter in Genesis 20:

Maybe this happened in the twinkling of an eye with Abraham and Sarah, we do not know.

1 Corinthians 15:
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Gary Larrabee
Vinesbranch.com

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